Does marriage still matter? We talk to the Manhattan Institute’s Kay Hymowitz about her book, Marriage and Caste in America: Separate and Unequal Families in a Post-Marital Age. Hymowitz talks about the role of marriage in childrearing, wealth accumulation, and more — and how the unequal popularity of marriage is making the rich richer and the poor poorer. It’s interesting stuff, though I remain unpersuaded that gay marriage is any threat, and remain unclear on how that fits with the rest of her analysis.

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