A CONVERSATION with P.J. O’Rourke.

UPDATE: Yes, it’s really stupid. Excerpt:

Gillespie: Well, let’s talk specifically about Donald Trump a little bit. You’ve likened him to Juan Peron, the authoritarian socialist who helped transform Argentina from one of the wealthiest countries in the world, really, to a second-tier shit hole, and it’s never really climbed out of that.

O’Rourke: Actually, I likened him to Evita.

Gillespie: Well, I was going to say, if Trump is Juan Peron, does that mean Melania is Evita, and is she going to start singing?

O’Rourke: No, no. It’s Trump who is Evita. I said actually we had a pair of them. I said, you know, we’re definitely going through a period in global politics where there’s kind of an accent on the strong person.

Gillespie: Imagine if he starts wearing a military uniform with braids on the [crosstalk 00: 16: 12].

O’Rourke: One wouldn’t put it past him.

Gillespie: What frightens you …

O’Rourke: I mean, he could do it.

People keep saying Trump is dumb and driven by insecurity, then demonstrating that, at least where Trump is concerned, they’re dumb and driven by insecurity. O’Rourke and Gillespie are describing a cartoon in their heads which has next to nothing in common with the actual Trump. If you want to know what the hell happened in 2016, don’t waste your time with O’Rourke, who clearly has no idea. Read Salena Zito, who spent the election cycle, and its aftermath, talking to actual voters.