T. Boone Pickens is an oilman, a takeover expert, and a longtime observer of the American scene. He’s got a new book out — The First Billion Is the Hardest: Reflections on a Life of Comebacks and America’s Energy Future — and a new wind energy plan for reducing America’s dependence on imported oil.

We talk to Pickens about oil dependence, wind power, NIMBYism, and the future of America — plus, how to get rich and the future of entrepreneurialism among American youth.

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Music is “Time’s Right” by 46 Long, and “69365” by the Nebraska Guitar Militia.