STEPHEN GREEN IS liveblogging the Democratic debate. (“Three out of four undecided voters on CNN are pear-shaped middle-aged women with a tendency to ramble, and who want things from the government. Don’t blame me if you think that’s cruel–I’m just reporting what I see.”)

UPDATE: More here. I’ll just add that the lighting seems awfully unflattering. Who was in charge of that?

ANOTHER UPDATE: Winner unclear, loser identified.

Big comment thread here.

More from Dave Weigel.

MORE: Spotting a planted question?

STILL MORE: Video of Obama on driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.

Last word goes to Stephen Green: “Lots of fireworks, yet still the worst debate I’ve seen all season. The blame rests squarely with CNN. They ran a bad debate on a bad stage with stupid questions from insipid people in a format that was neither fish nor fowl but spoiled meat nonetheless. Horrible, even by the low standards set by Fox News and MSNBC. Horrible, horrible.” Yeah, that’s pretty much what I thought. I haven’t seen all the debates, but of the ones I’ve seen this was far and away the worst.