LENO: Yeah, so when I turn on late-night now, regardless of how I’m watching, if I see Jake from State Farm again, I’m gonna shoot myself in the f*cking head.
It’s like, geez … the host comes out, does the monologue, then it’s right away over to six minutes of commercials. You come back, the host talks about who’s coming up and everything out, “We’ll be right back,” and so on. All cut up.
Enough already.
Why watch that when I can switch over to streaming or YouTube and I can watch an hour with Harrison Ford talking off the top of his head, as opposed to just having few minutes with the guest or with the host, you know? Johnny used to have real conversations. I tried to have real conversations. That’s seems to be gone, and the audience knows it.
DEADLINE: Can it come back?
LENO: It’s not that people are better or worse, it’s the fact that the whole medium has changed. The idea that you have to turn the TV on 11:30 p.m. to hear what was being said, like appointment television, that sounds ridiculous now.
DEADLINE: Devil’s advocate — why?
LENO: Because you can watch TV whenever you want now, you can watch whatever show whatever you want, you know, so that’s what’s really ruined it. There’s no immediacy. People used to say, “Oh, let’s see what David Letterman or whoever had to say about the president’s thing today,” and you and the whole world simultaneously at 11:30 knew what they thought. Now you can look it up anytime, and whenever you watch it, if you miss it, that’s OK, you know? So yeah, that’s what’s really changed.
DEADLINE: Sounds like Jay Leno is channeling Marshall McLuhan. That you’re saying, it’s the medium, not the message?
LENO: Yeah, I think that’s fair to say.
I mean, podcasts really are the new talk shows. Joe Rogan is the new Johnny Carson.
Yeah, Joe talks to everybody about everything. There’s no FCC to step in and say what you say and can’t say, so you really do get an unfiltered idea of what everybody thinks. So yeah, I mean, to me, that’s what’s also changed late-night.
I talk to young people — they don’t know CBS, NBC or ABC, Channel Four; they know Channel 682 or whatever. They just go to YouTube. Which is amazing. If you had predicted YouTube would be the most popular channel in the world 10 years ago, I think people would have said, “What are you talking about?” But it is now.
Read the whole thing. There are a pair of photos atop this section of the interview juxtaposing a young, Brylcreemed Carson in a suit and tie, and a bald stubble-faced Rogan. In the 1960s and pre-cable 1970s era of mass media, every American man wanted to be the suave yet accessible Johnny Carson or the fun and boisterous Ed McMahon. While Rogan can certainly get his guests to talk and talk, does any guy fancy himself a Rogan clone?