HEH.

OUCH:

Well, I suppose self-pity and bellyaching and sour grapes coming from a dead-tree media outlet over the success of a slick and widely-loved new media outfit like Craigslist really doesn’t come as much of a surprise.

But, holy cow, to make a COVER STORY out of the fact that you and your fellow dead-tree Old Media outlets are getting whupped by better service and greater efficiency (and more timeliness and accuracy)? And then to expect media savvy readers to cry big splashy tears over the fact that you can’t seem to adapt your performance and business models to the new reality? That takes real chutzpah and brings navel-gazing to a whole new level.

Not all old media folks are that dumb. I guest-taught a journalism class on Tuesday with Bob Benz, who runs Scripps’ web operation. He seemed quite aware of the problems newspapers face — which he characterized as more organizational and cultural than technological — and had some good thoughts about what to do with them. I really don’t think that newspapers will die as a result of the web. Well, except for the ones that waste their energies on whining. (Link via Bill Quick.)

UPDATE: Ryan Blitstein, the article of the SF Weekly piece in question, emails:

I really enjoy your blog so I felt compelled to write in response to the post about my story on Craigslist. I think if you read the whole story on Craig (yes, all 6000+ words) you’d see that thegoldengate and dailypundit oversimplified the argument I make in order to attack it.

The story is not about old media getting “whupped” by Craigslist. It describes how Craigslist — in addition to being a great public service for millions — is having an *unintentionally* negative effect on an already-strugging newspaper industry (including independent, local community papers). It then describes how Craig Newmark is personally working to address the problem, and makes the argument that while blogs and citizen journalism are important, for now, they aren’t mature enough to replace the mainstream media, even despite its many faults.

I didn’t see it as a whine — I saw it as a description of a problem, and an argument that the solution is far more complex than many bloggers, citizen journalists, and mainstream reporters make it out to be. I hope when you read it, even if you don’t agree with my arguments, you don’t dismiss it as simply whining.

Well, I did read the whole piece, and I guess “whining” is arguably unfair. But it’s very dismissive of citizen journalism, and takes some cheap shots at Craigslist. Example:

That “category” allows Newmark to keep the domain Craigslist.org, a name that gives the false impression that the site is a nonprofit, by using “.org,” an extension almost exclusively used by nonprofit companies and foundations.

“Almost exclusively?” Not hardly, not for years. Likewise, the reference to Craigslist’s “hush hush profits” seems a bit much.

Craigslist is hurting classified ad revenues, that’s true. And classified revenues are important to newspapers. But the decline of newspapers began long before the Internet threat (read Andrew Krieg’s Spiked: How Chain Management Corrupted America’s Oldest Newspaper for a story from the 1980s illustrating the origins of many practices now blamed on the Internet). And while newspapers suffer, people who use Craigslist — and get apartments, or jobs, that they might not have gotten if they relied on newspaper classifieds — are benefiting. The article notes that every time someone advertises on Craigslist instead of in a newspaper, they’re hurting news coverage. But turn it around: Should they be unemployed, or have trouble finding apartments, so that newspapers don’t have to change?

What’s more, I was a telecom lawyer in the 1980s when the American Newspaper Publishers’ Association fought tooth-and-nail (and successfully) to keep phone companies out of the electronic classified ads business. That means they knew this kind of competition was coming and had two decades to get ready for it, and they still lost out to an ad-hoc Internet startup.

The article’s not a waste by any means. There’s lots of interesting stuff in it, including this about Jeff Jarvis’s new venture:

Newmark is extremely guarded about his own ventures. He reveals only that he’s working on three major projects — advising two new foundations and investing in one start-up company — all in stealth mode. The East Coast start-up was founded by Upendra Shardanand, a creator of Firefly (now Microsoft Passport), software that collects individual user information based on behavior, then recommends appropriate content. Its editor in chief, Buzzmachine.com blogger Jeff Jarvis, created Entertainment Weekly and was a journalist and executive at the New York Daily News. Next spring, they’ll release technology that identifies the most important stories and most “trusted” versions — a computerized or computer-aided “editor.”

Sounds more like a Pajamas Media competitor than I realized. Very interesting.

But on the newspaper front, I think this quote is applicable here:

There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary to public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute or common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped, or turned back.

No, they don’t. They can complain to the court of public opinion if they like, but there’s no reason why it has to listen.

I agree that citizen journalism won’t replace newspapers. But I think they’re being hurt far more by technological, cultural, and organizational problems than by technology. And I don’t think the article reflects that at all.

Ed Driscoll has related thoughts. And congrats to Blitstein, anyway, for engaging the criticism, both here and over at Bill Quick’s.

MORE: Thoughts from an insider:

During the whole time I was there I constantly pleaded with the powers that be to do the online version of the classifieds right, the way it could be done with all the power of the web. At that time, 1995, craigslist was still a gleam in Craig Newmark’s eye. The Chronicle owned the classified space for the Bay Area. I created a classified section on sfgate, but it was just an online version of what was in the newspaper, no more, no less. I argued that we should add interactivity, let people purchase ads online cheaply, have pictures and links, make sfgate.com the goto place for everybody in the bay area to buy, sell, rent, and know everything.

But this was utterly impossible. It was a question of turf. There was a large department that sold and processed classified ads. It was a major source of revenue, employed a lot of people, and had a big budget. No way they were going to yield that turf to a bunch of weirdos over at the six person, unprofitable, experimental web site crew. Besides, online ads would cannabalize the whole business. Even as time went on, and craigslist grew and the sfgate website traffic and personnel grew, there was never any possibility of going up against the entrenched bureaucracy. Newspapers are the most old-fashioned organizations left alive in the marketplace. Even book publishing companies are more with it.

Yes, that does seem to be the case.

STILL MORE: Jeff Jarvis emails to say that his startup really won’t be competing with Pajamas Media, but that he can’t say more about the business plan at this point because it’s a startup.

HMM: “Kerry blames election loss on Sept. 11 attacks,” according to The Raw Story.

I’m not sure what to make of that. Would Kerry have won in 2004 if there had been no 9/11 attacks? Possibly. On the other hand, if there had been no 9/11 attacks, Kerry might never have gotten the nomination — his war record, remember, was supposed to immunize him on national security issues, and that was his biggest attraction to many Democrats.

I’m no Harry Turtledove, but in my alt-history version, I think John Edwards or Howard Dean would have been more likely to have gotten the nomination. Of course, if that had happened, Kerry wouldn’t have lost the 2004 election, since he wouldn’t have been running, so I guess in a way he’s right!

MATT WELCH, like a lot of people, has lost perspective over the propaganda-in-Iraq story, but commenter “Tom” restores it:

Good God! We’re talking about propaganda, right?!? Not carpet-bombing, or summary executions, or napalm, chemical and biological weapons, concentration camps, forced marches, slave labor…??? Propaganda!! PROPAGANDA!!!! Are you people insane? Tell me one war where both sides didn’t use propaganda as much as possible. No, no, NOOOO! We don’t want to win using PROPAGANDA! We’d much prefer having to kill thousands more than to win anyone over with PROPAGANDA!

Propaganda is a part of war, and it’s not run according to Poynter Institute seminar standards. One might argue that what the U.S. military was doing is a bad idea — I don’t know one way or another on that — but the howls of outrage seem rather forced. As is so often the case these days.

UPDATE: Reader Don Wolff reminds us that there are worse things in recent Baghdad media history. Perhaps that memory, or a desire to erase it, explains the excessive outrage now.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Andrew Sullivan, seldom accused of stinting in his Bush criticism these days, comments:

So we’re spinning the Iraqi press by planting propaganda in its pages? BFD. The only problem with this scheme, it seems to me, is not that somehow it’s unethical to use propaganda in wartime, especially in occupied areas where local support is crucial. This is war, as some people still refuse to understand. The problem is that media is now global, the free citizens of Iraq can access information from almost anywhere on earth, and these stories will leak and backfire. We’re adjusting to war in a new media universe. We haven’t adjusted swiftly enough.

This seems to me to be a plausible criticism, unlike Welch’s.

AUSTIN BAY REPORTS on military training simulations.

JOHN LEO NOW HAS a blog. Check it out!

THIS SEEMS LIKE GOOD NEWS: “Iraq suicide blasts at lowest level in 7 months.”

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE held to be a right by South Africa’s Supreme Court.

PETER SCHUCK WRITES that America’s law schools have a diversity problem:

Elite law schools cherish robust debate, iconoclasm, and arguing issues from all sides, right? Wrong. The dirty little (not-so) secret about these faculties-that they care much more about diversifying their skin colors, genders, and surnames than about diversifying their points of view-has finally come to the attention of the general public.

Now that the truth is out, law school faculties are likely to come under increased pressure to surrender some of their hiring autonomy. But this pressure would be misguided. If these faculties know what is good for them, they will acknowledge the dearth of dissenting voices within them-and work earnestly to correct the problem from within.

Indeed. By the way, I’ve read Schuck’s new book, Meditations of a Militant Moderate, and I thought it was quite interesting. There’s a small excerpt here.

I DON’T PAY NEARLY ENOUGH ATTENTION to the computer/video game world, and I guess my plans to buy an XBox 360 are on hold . . . but the Carnival of the Gamers is up, and they’re paying a lot of attention.

ETHAN WALLISON is very unhappy with the New York Times.

ALEX TABARROK explains why you should donate to bloggers. Like Megan McArdle, I find it entirely persuasive!

A SOLDIER IN IRAQ: responds to Bush’s speech: “Please, America, listen to the man.”

A SNAG IN THE PADILLA TRIAL: This does undercut some people’s claims that the Fourth Circuit is a “Constitution-free zone.”

PUNISHING SUCCESS in the oil business.

IN THE MAIL: Robert Bruegman’s Sprawl : A Compact History. A very interesting book, reporting that people have been worrying about “sprawl” for centuries, and that most efforts to reduce it make things worse — though they do tend to enrich incumbent landowners.

DE VILLEPIN: The riots in France weren’t riots! They were merely “social unrest.”

WHY AREN’T UNIVERSITIES BOYCOTTING CONGRESS over “don’t ask, don’t tell?”

Because that’s where the money comes from!

N.Z. BEAR HAS questions for Russ Feingold.

I’M GUESSING THAT PROFESSOR BAINBRIDGE won’t think much of this development:

The next big thing for the wine industry could be small, screw-capped and shatterproof.

Single-serve plastic bottles are starting to show up on supermarket shelves in a bid to win over new customers by moving wine beyond posh white-tablecloth dinners to the informal ease of a picnic.

I haven’t ever bought a plastic bottle, but I usually keep some of the single-serving airplane bottles of merlot, shiraz, etc. around. I often have a glass of wine at night, but it’s usually just one, and I hate to open a bottle for that — especially as the resveratrol and other beneficial antioxidants go bad within 24 hours of opening. And hey, if Bainbridge is open-minded about box wines, maybe he won’t be upset after all.

UPDATE: A reader in the wine business emails:

Wine in non traditional containers is growing rapidly and will continue to grow. I see it changing year by year. Many people have the same issues you do with opening a bottle during the week and having it go bad before it’s consumed. Smaller containers and 3L boxed wine are filling the need. A 3L boxed wine can last 5-6 weeks without degradation and contains like 18-20 servings. Many of these offerings are vintage dated Napa and Sonoma wine like Black Box. It’s not all cheap valley plonk anymore.

Convenience will win over many converts. Cork became a tradition by default because there was no other viable closure solution for many decades. That is changing now, and there’s no going back.

Another advantage of plastic bottles/boxes if they ever get more widely adopted, is the weight advantage over glass. Most wine loads are shipped by truck or intermodal and are maxed out first by weight not by cube. You would need fewer trucks and consume less fuel per liter of wine shipped with either plastic or boxed wine vs traditional glass bottles.

Cool. Now if I could just order it over the Internet. Meanwhile, another reader emails:

I was alarmed to read your comment that wine loses all this good stuff after 24 hours. Here’s a quote that I found on the Web that indicates all is not lost after opening:

Resveratrol is available in pill form, but it is reported to be unstable because the resveratrol molecule is destroyed by contact with air. However, Creasy’s [Dr. Leroy Creasy, professor emeritus in the department of horticulture at Cornell University] tests show that resveratrol is preserved even in open wine, with only a 3 percent reduction after 17 days sitting open on a counter at about 70 degrees or refrigerated at about 35 degrees. He believes that resveratrol lasts longer in wine than in pill form because of the anti-oxidant properties in wine. However, wine will lose its resveratrol if it is exposed to light, so keep an opened bottle away from a window.

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Please get to bottom of this.

Anybody know more?

BRYAN PRESTON OF JUNKYARDBLOG looks back on four years of blogging.

NANOTECHNOLOGY’S LEGAL RISKS: The actual risks are probably exaggerated, as I’ve reported before (read this, too), but the litigation risks may not be.

JIM HOFT LOOKS AT POLLS IN AMERICA, while Ed Morrissey looks at somewhat more immediately relevant polls in Canada: “A new poll by AP-Ipsos, based on a survey done during the debate over the no-confidence motion, shows that the Liberals have dropped into a dead heat with the Conservatives on a national basis. This data has not received wide release — in fact, I had to buy a membership at Ipsos in order to see the data.”

KATE MCMILLAN: “Why does mainstream media continue to stereotype political bloggers and our readers as ‘tech savvy’ twenty year olds?”

THE TANGLED BANK, a science blog carnival, is up.